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		<title>Comment on The Cow and The Ox &#8211; a story about the illusion of racial privilege by IronWynch</title>
		<link>http://ironwynch.com/scrolls/2013/05/the-cow-and-the-ox-a-story-about-the-illusion-of-racial-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-448</link>
		<dc:creator>IronWynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 20:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that he should have corrected his mistake.  However, I don&#039;t think the real log is exactly proof that women are just as looks obsessed as men as far as beauty.  The guy looks kind of frog-like (not ugly like a frog, but with that froggish quality all men under a certain age have) except for a pretty strong brow, which most relatively masculine men have.  If he behaved overly sensitive, I don&#039;t think he&#039;d have gotten that far.

A mistake detractors often make is in taking things to extremes.  The CH writer(s) don&#039;t ever say that looks don&#039;t matter at all for men or that looks are everything for women, just that they don&#039;t mitigate squeamishness in men and can cause blindness to hostility in women.

Unfortunately a mistake some supposed tellers of great truths make when they start to form ideologies rather than worldviews, is to ignore or attempt to stamp down by a sort of force, alternative views, and cover their mistakes or missteps rather than exposing them and learning from them.  I hope that even if he (or they) doesn&#039;t address this, he learns from it and acts accordingly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that he should have corrected his mistake.  However, I don&#8217;t think the real log is exactly proof that women are just as looks obsessed as men as far as beauty.  The guy looks kind of frog-like (not ugly like a frog, but with that froggish quality all men under a certain age have) except for a pretty strong brow, which most relatively masculine men have.  If he behaved overly sensitive, I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;d have gotten that far.</p>
<p>A mistake detractors often make is in taking things to extremes.  The CH writer(s) don&#8217;t ever say that looks don&#8217;t matter at all for men or that looks are everything for women, just that they don&#8217;t mitigate squeamishness in men and can cause blindness to hostility in women.</p>
<p>Unfortunately a mistake some supposed tellers of great truths make when they start to form ideologies rather than worldviews, is to ignore or attempt to stamp down by a sort of force, alternative views, and cover their mistakes or missteps rather than exposing them and learning from them.  I hope that even if he (or they) doesn&#8217;t address this, he learns from it and acts accordingly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Cow and The Ox &#8211; a story about the illusion of racial privilege by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://ironwynch.com/scrolls/2013/05/the-cow-and-the-ox-a-story-about-the-illusion-of-racial-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-447</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 10:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

This is very OT.  I&#039;m posting this comment because I noticed that you&#039;re a reader of the heartiste blog.  Heartiste wrote a blog article recently that I think was dishonest or at least did not tell the full story.  

This was the blog article in question, Confident A-Hole Game:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/confident-a-hole-game/

Many of us warned him that the images in his article were tampered with by an anonymous troll.  He refused to publish many of our comments that exposed the fraud because it doesn&#039;t sit well with his world view.  In refusing to publish the original chat logs or to make any kind of retraction, he is at least as guilty as the troll who sent them.  

He likes to pretend that average looking, average income guys can get a harem of girls simply by being extremely confident.. that the only thing standing in the way of these average guys is their beta behaviour.  Since most people are average, this is a very good business decision on his part.  

The truth is most guys cannot afford to behave in the way prescribed in that particular article.  It is not good game advice.  I beckon for you to try to repeat his success(which mind you occurred in the span of 2 hours).  

The original images tell a very different story.  These chat logs were from another website who holds a very different and, in my opinion, a far more cynical world view.  The conversations were between an actual male model and a girl.  It is our opinion that women of this day and age are as obsessed with looks as men.  

These are some of the links that were sent to roissy.  All of them are from one particular thread on one particular forum, &quot;puahate,com&quot;:

http://i.imgur.com/fQsfD.jpg
http://puahate.com/showthread.php?p=1592205#post1592205
http://puahate.com/showthread.php?p=1592538#post1592538
http://puahate.com/showthread.php?p=1592638#post1592638

http://looksmatter.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/looks_matter_you_are_not_a_model_equals_you_are_invisible_to_women1.jpg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>This is very OT.  I&#8217;m posting this comment because I noticed that you&#8217;re a reader of the heartiste blog.  Heartiste wrote a blog article recently that I think was dishonest or at least did not tell the full story.  </p>
<p>This was the blog article in question, Confident A-Hole Game:</p>
<p><a href="http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/confident-a-hole-game/" rel="nofollow">http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/confident-a-hole-game/</a></p>
<p>Many of us warned him that the images in his article were tampered with by an anonymous troll.  He refused to publish many of our comments that exposed the fraud because it doesn&#8217;t sit well with his world view.  In refusing to publish the original chat logs or to make any kind of retraction, he is at least as guilty as the troll who sent them.  </p>
<p>He likes to pretend that average looking, average income guys can get a harem of girls simply by being extremely confident.. that the only thing standing in the way of these average guys is their beta behaviour.  Since most people are average, this is a very good business decision on his part.  </p>
<p>The truth is most guys cannot afford to behave in the way prescribed in that particular article.  It is not good game advice.  I beckon for you to try to repeat his success(which mind you occurred in the span of 2 hours).  </p>
<p>The original images tell a very different story.  These chat logs were from another website who holds a very different and, in my opinion, a far more cynical world view.  The conversations were between an actual male model and a girl.  It is our opinion that women of this day and age are as obsessed with looks as men.  </p>
<p>These are some of the links that were sent to roissy.  All of them are from one particular thread on one particular forum, &#8220;puahate,com&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://i.imgur.com/fQsfD.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/fQsfD.jpg</a><br />
<a href="http://puahate.com/showthread.php?p=1592205#post1592205" rel="nofollow">http://puahate.com/showthread.php?p=1592205#post1592205</a><br />
<a href="http://puahate.com/showthread.php?p=1592538#post1592538" rel="nofollow">http://puahate.com/showthread.php?p=1592538#post1592538</a><br />
<a href="http://puahate.com/showthread.php?p=1592638#post1592638" rel="nofollow">http://puahate.com/showthread.php?p=1592638#post1592638</a></p>
<p><a href="http://looksmatter.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/looks_matter_you_are_not_a_model_equals_you_are_invisible_to_women1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://looksmatter.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/looks_matter_you_are_not_a_model_equals_you_are_invisible_to_women1.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Wearable Balanced Woman Symbol: Raccoon Bacula by Pockets</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pockets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh I&#039;ve always loved raccoons and closely relate myself to their little critter spirit and mischieviousness!!!  Thank you for this cute article, I must share this info]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I&#8217;ve always loved raccoons and closely relate myself to their little critter spirit and mischieviousness!!!  Thank you for this cute article, I must share this info</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moral Panic: Obesity by IronWynch</title>
		<link>http://ironwynch.com/scrolls/2010/10/moral-panic-obesity/comment-page-1/#comment-359</link>
		<dc:creator>IronWynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why not is a good question.  The answer is the same as the one to why not pick on people injured in car accidents or while participating in sports or military combat.  Those were all choices too, and some might even say immoral ones.

When someone picks on fat people, it&#039;s because their arbitrary moral code is against gluttony, but apparently pro anger and pride, which are also deadly sins according to Christianity.  It is obvious that their judgment is arbitrary.  So what it comes down to is status, and the person who perceives themselves as being of a higher status, attempting to lord over someone they perceive as having lower status.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not is a good question.  The answer is the same as the one to why not pick on people injured in car accidents or while participating in sports or military combat.  Those were all choices too, and some might even say immoral ones.</p>
<p>When someone picks on fat people, it&#8217;s because their arbitrary moral code is against gluttony, but apparently pro anger and pride, which are also deadly sins according to Christianity.  It is obvious that their judgment is arbitrary.  So what it comes down to is status, and the person who perceives themselves as being of a higher status, attempting to lord over someone they perceive as having lower status.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moral Panic: Obesity by Weaselina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weaselina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a good perspective. Also, I agree somewhat with the first comment.
I am exploring my feelings about obese people and trying to come to a place where I am more compassionate. Though, I am an average, fit person who has led a life of being extremely active physically and I eat very healthy, I find myself on the receiving end of mild insults from obese people (who are mostly in my family) when I would not have dreamed of saying such things to them.

Lately, I find people pushing an agenda that is promoting an acceptance of obesity and trying to paint it as attractive. I find this dishonest, since so many who do this are actively trying to lose weight. And they are not losing it for me.

It should not be wrong for someone to say they are not attracted to overweight people. It is not a control measure. It is a personal preference. Someone is gay, I support that. Someone likes more weight on their significant other, fine.

I understand the backlash to stop fat-bashes, but seriously, to blame it all on the government for supplying crap food is kind of over-simplifying. People have a choice. I don&#039;t have much money, but I eat healthy meals. I do not let myself buy soda and chips and other unhealthy crap because I would eat it and feel unhealthy and bad about myself. So, if you DO buy crappy food and gorge on it, then expect society to fawn on you and tell you it is okay, you are so out of luck.

The government does promote obesity and stupidity in this country. True enough. But, people have a choice. They do.
We are all exposed to the same information. And this is usually a controllable thing, not a thyroid problem. It is a poor decision making problem.

Go ahead. Make poor decisions. But don&#039;t expect society at large to lie and pretend it is not a problem, and that it is beautiful. It is not. Gluttony is considered one of the big sins. We judge people for doing other things where self-control is required. Why not this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good perspective. Also, I agree somewhat with the first comment.<br />
I am exploring my feelings about obese people and trying to come to a place where I am more compassionate. Though, I am an average, fit person who has led a life of being extremely active physically and I eat very healthy, I find myself on the receiving end of mild insults from obese people (who are mostly in my family) when I would not have dreamed of saying such things to them.</p>
<p>Lately, I find people pushing an agenda that is promoting an acceptance of obesity and trying to paint it as attractive. I find this dishonest, since so many who do this are actively trying to lose weight. And they are not losing it for me.</p>
<p>It should not be wrong for someone to say they are not attracted to overweight people. It is not a control measure. It is a personal preference. Someone is gay, I support that. Someone likes more weight on their significant other, fine.</p>
<p>I understand the backlash to stop fat-bashes, but seriously, to blame it all on the government for supplying crap food is kind of over-simplifying. People have a choice. I don&#8217;t have much money, but I eat healthy meals. I do not let myself buy soda and chips and other unhealthy crap because I would eat it and feel unhealthy and bad about myself. So, if you DO buy crappy food and gorge on it, then expect society to fawn on you and tell you it is okay, you are so out of luck.</p>
<p>The government does promote obesity and stupidity in this country. True enough. But, people have a choice. They do.<br />
We are all exposed to the same information. And this is usually a controllable thing, not a thyroid problem. It is a poor decision making problem.</p>
<p>Go ahead. Make poor decisions. But don&#8217;t expect society at large to lie and pretend it is not a problem, and that it is beautiful. It is not. Gluttony is considered one of the big sins. We judge people for doing other things where self-control is required. Why not this?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Myth: BDSM Attracts the Ugly by Newbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Me too, Laniee.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too, Laniee.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Myth: BDSM Attracts the Ugly by lainee park</title>
		<link>http://ironwynch.com/scrolls/2010/11/myth-bdsm-attracts-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>lainee park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article. Gives me hope. I was afraid to go to a munch and be rejected because I am fat. I want to be in a safe place and explore my kink without judgement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. Gives me hope. I was afraid to go to a munch and be rejected because I am fat. I want to be in a safe place and explore my kink without judgement.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Case in point: Naive Illiterate &#8220;White nationalist&#8221; by Andrew</title>
		<link>http://ironwynch.com/scrolls/2012/02/case-in-point-naive-illiterate-white-nationalist/comment-page-1/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They champion their culture, but it&#039;s the same one that birthed the twin cancers of the west, Marxism and Progressivism.   They&#039;ve, and in particular their pedestalized white women, have done more to destroy Western Civilization than millions of illegal immigrants ever could.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They champion their culture, but it&#8217;s the same one that birthed the twin cancers of the west, Marxism and Progressivism.   They&#8217;ve, and in particular their pedestalized white women, have done more to destroy Western Civilization than millions of illegal immigrants ever could.</p>
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		<title>Comment on You Wanted Equality? White Woman Gets Clocked by Cross Cultural Connections</title>
		<link>http://ironwynch.com/scrolls/2011/10/you-wanted-equality-white-woman-gets-clocked/comment-page-1/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>Cross Cultural Connections</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nicole.  There is and has always been a huge disconnect in Feminism between white and black women.  White middle -to upper middle class women and men (the majority of those who consider themselves &quot;Feminists&quot;) just do not understand that the kind of equality in sexual freedom that they are fighting for everyone to have the &quot;right&quot; to, can not, will not and in fact does not, play out in the same for us women in the Black community.  

We simply do not have the family or financial resources to fall back onto when our sexual freedom goes wrong.  Rather we spiral into a dark abyss of poverty, disease, and hooking, and then pass this off to the next generation and the cycle continues over multi-generations.

This is the point I was trying to get across here regarding the Amber cole case;

http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2011/10/26/no-you-arent-amber-coles-father/

My first comment begins here.  See the replies and discussion that ensues.  To be fair I don&#039;t think they are being obtuse or disingenous.  I think that after all these years, they really are still genuinely clueless about the pathologies and dysfunctions in our society.

http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2011/10/26/no-you-arent-amber-coles-father/#comment-215080

Please join in the discussion.  Black voices need to be heard.
 
CCC
Cross Cultural Connections]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicole.  There is and has always been a huge disconnect in Feminism between white and black women.  White middle -to upper middle class women and men (the majority of those who consider themselves &#8220;Feminists&#8221;) just do not understand that the kind of equality in sexual freedom that they are fighting for everyone to have the &#8220;right&#8221; to, can not, will not and in fact does not, play out in the same for us women in the Black community.  </p>
<p>We simply do not have the family or financial resources to fall back onto when our sexual freedom goes wrong.  Rather we spiral into a dark abyss of poverty, disease, and hooking, and then pass this off to the next generation and the cycle continues over multi-generations.</p>
<p>This is the point I was trying to get across here regarding the Amber cole case;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2011/10/26/no-you-arent-amber-coles-father/" rel="nofollow">http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2011/10/26/no-you-arent-amber-coles-father/</a></p>
<p>My first comment begins here.  See the replies and discussion that ensues.  To be fair I don&#8217;t think they are being obtuse or disingenous.  I think that after all these years, they really are still genuinely clueless about the pathologies and dysfunctions in our society.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2011/10/26/no-you-arent-amber-coles-father/#comment-215080" rel="nofollow">http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2011/10/26/no-you-arent-amber-coles-father/#comment-215080</a></p>
<p>Please join in the discussion.  Black voices need to be heard.</p>
<p>CCC<br />
Cross Cultural Connections</p>
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		<title>Comment on You Wanted Equality? White Woman Gets Clocked by Cross Cultural Comparisons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cross Cultural Comparisons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nicole.  There is and has always been a huge disconnect in Feminism between white and black women.  White middle -to upper middle class women and men (the majority of those who consider themselves &quot;Feminists&quot;) just do not understand that the kind of equality in sexual freedom that they are fighting for everyone to have the &quot;right&quot; to, can not, will not and in fact does not, play out in the same for us women in the Black community.  

We simply do not have the family or financial resources to fall back onto when our sexual freedom goes wrong.  Rather we spiral into a dark abyss of poverty, disease, and hooking, and then pass this off to the next generation and the cycle continues over multi-generations.

This is the point I was trying to get across here regarding the Amber cole case;

http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2011/10/26/no-you-arent-amber-coles-father/

My first comment begins here.  See the replies and discussion that ensues.  To be fair I don&#039;t think they are being obtuse or disingenous.  I think that after all these years, they really are still genuinely clueless about the pathologies and dysfunctions in our society.

http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2011/10/26/no-you-arent-amber-coles-father/#comment-215080

Please join in the discussion.  Black voices need to be heard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicole.  There is and has always been a huge disconnect in Feminism between white and black women.  White middle -to upper middle class women and men (the majority of those who consider themselves &#8220;Feminists&#8221;) just do not understand that the kind of equality in sexual freedom that they are fighting for everyone to have the &#8220;right&#8221; to, can not, will not and in fact does not, play out in the same for us women in the Black community.  </p>
<p>We simply do not have the family or financial resources to fall back onto when our sexual freedom goes wrong.  Rather we spiral into a dark abyss of poverty, disease, and hooking, and then pass this off to the next generation and the cycle continues over multi-generations.</p>
<p>This is the point I was trying to get across here regarding the Amber cole case;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2011/10/26/no-you-arent-amber-coles-father/" rel="nofollow">http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2011/10/26/no-you-arent-amber-coles-father/</a></p>
<p>My first comment begins here.  See the replies and discussion that ensues.  To be fair I don&#8217;t think they are being obtuse or disingenous.  I think that after all these years, they really are still genuinely clueless about the pathologies and dysfunctions in our society.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2011/10/26/no-you-arent-amber-coles-father/#comment-215080" rel="nofollow">http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2011/10/26/no-you-arent-amber-coles-father/#comment-215080</a></p>
<p>Please join in the discussion.  Black voices need to be heard.</p>
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