Can one of you ladies please explain to me why you choose to insult rater than ask questions and discuss? I still can’t get this through my head. Shouldn’t you clarify with me first? I do my best to not talk shit about others and treat (especially fellow ladies) kindly. I had one guy treat me poorly and it was all an act because I was out of his league so he gamed me hard core. That’s all. Once again, for the record. I have had both short-term flings and two long-term, live together, invest in property together, relationships. My two long-terms spanned my entire twenties and I lived with these men for over 10 years. I know men. Roissy phrased it meanly, but he had a point. Beta-ish men should not be up the ass of any woman, let alone a good looking one. She is used to attention and to much will turn her off. There is an art to seduction and sometimes it requires pulling back. And as Roissy himself later on that thread followed-up with, he wouldn’t leave his lover coldly, just that he would leave eventually and not stay. It leave mystery, He is right.